Saturday, August 21, 2010

Isn't the immigration problem actually about a people who practice no birth control?

Is this not indicative of just what Roman Catholicism does to a people who were originally pagan in their religious beliefs? There are too many of these indigenent people, who have no education. They have created their own country, and they have created their situation. However, the Roman Catholic Church has tsaught them not to practice birth control, and they are very succeptible to suggestion. If they cut down on their birth rate, they would not have 6-7 children to support, and would be able to support themselves.Isn't the immigration problem actually about a people who practice no birth control?
I don't want to point the finger at Roman Catholics specifically. However, the UN has just come out with population figures pegging the world population at over 9 billion by 2050 and is showing the 'natural' result of economic migration due to completely playing out the soil in certain African nations, and it is projected to be huge.





There is not enough water to support all of these people. I don't know why, under such extreme circumstances there couldn't be at least a huge 'education campaign' about birth control as we had here in the 60s and 70s. Maybe even rewards for those who limit children in the areas where population explosion is still occuring. (I'm thinking 2 not 1, since that would reverse growth.)





I can't quite get my mind around banning more than 1 child as China did, but everyone is going to be in horrible conditions in Africa and Asia if these projections are even close. The Telegraph in the UK says that while UN predictions in the past might be off by a few million, the general trends have always proven true. The 9+ billion population figure is the MID RANGE figure assuming some level of birth reduction.





This was a 'someday' problem professors taught at our University when I went through, but it was still being brought up as a 'could be prevented' scenario. It sounds like that point has passed.





And the reason our professors tought this was because they were projecting war, famine wars, world wide.





I always didn't want to be hostage to foreign agriculture and supported farm subsidies, and this makes me do so more than ever. However, we need free arable land to farm.





Sorry, going on a tangent. I was just surprised by the numbers, so fast.Isn't the immigration problem actually about a people who practice no birth control?
Seems that way, the mexican government does nothing to help their own people other than shove their surplus population off on to the US welfare system.
America is creating a lot more jobs than our capacity to make more babies, a lot more Americans will retire this year than young Americans starting to work.


Yes they have to be deported because they are breaking the law.


If we need more workers they have to be really educated in the field that they are going to be working and they have to come here legally to stop wages from going down.
Many of the illegal immigrants come here as nannies. They generally leave their spouse and children behind in many different countries, sometimes forever, to send home a paycheck to feed them. This large group of illegal immigrants fill a pressing need of our society, and are employed by the leaders of our society... and most of them produce no children here at all.





The 'issue' of immigration I a weird one for a nation of immigrants. I believe it is mostly a racial/educational bias, as white potential immigrants from developed countries seldom have to sneak in - even though they displace far more desirable jobs than do illegal nannies and field workers.





The strength of this nation is that we have skimmed the most ambitious and hard working folks of the world by welcominging them and their drive. It seems a poor time to stop that trend to protect jobs nobody wants.





Nothing is being said now of the hispanic laborers that was not said of every wave of immigration in history. We seem fine with our Irish/German extraction citizens now, don't we?





My great grandmother came to the US from Ireland, speaking no english, as a nanny in 1880. Where did yours come from?
Part of the immigration issue is a NEGATIVE BIRTH RATE!





Italy, France and Germany all have NEGATIVE BIRTH RATES.





The historically Italian, French and Germans are NOT reproducing at a rate high enough to replace themselves and are not reproducing at a rate high enough to create the next generation of workers.





So those countries have had to IMPORT workers and have been doing so since the end of WW2.





This problem is creeping up on the USA as well. There are several job areas that Anglos are not entering. The construction industry is populated by Hispanics in many parts of the USA. This is because Anglo guys aren't interested in building homes any more. Anglo guys want cushy desk jobs and don't want to get ';dirty';.





So it is the immigrants (leagal and illegal) who are taking the jobs Anglos don't want. They aren't stealing jobs.





Your slam on the Roman Catholic Church is unjustified. Many traditional cultures of all Religions have large families. In the case of third world cultures the families tend to be large because of a high infant/childhood mortality rate. It was not too long ago in the USA families tended to be large as well.





Look at your family tree. Sure, your great grand father's family may have had six kids, but how many survived to adulthood to get married and have kids of their own? I saw one late19th century PROTESTANT American family tree where there were NINE children born, but only four survived to adulthood and bear children of their own.





Okay, so you are just so wrong on all counts.
no. they are two totally different issues.
It's less about religion and more about poverty and education. People who are as poor as the average Mexican citizen aren't going to pay anything for birth control. And you are right, since they lack any form of education they are more apt to follow every suggestion they hear.





Americans WILL take construction jobs - but not for $5.00 an hour. Our previous generations have worked hard in America to leave us this legacy, the greatest country on earth with the best standard of living. We deserve better than having to compete with Mexico's slave, third world wages. That's one thing I thought all Americans could agree on.... but appartently not.

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