Tuesday, August 24, 2010

How come there are no massacres in the states with gun control?

The three states (actually, jurisdictions) in the US with the strongest gun laws are California, New Jersey, and the District of Columbia. In recent memory, there have been no major massacres in any of those states. All the massacres seem to be in states with weak gun laws, such as Columbine High in Colorado, Virginia Tech in Virginia, and now Fort Hood in Texas.How come there are no massacres in the states with gun control?
California is in ****! Its a lost state, they want our help!





And it wasnt someone that went nuts b/c we dont have strict laws, he was upset and planned to do this b/c he was a wuss who didnt want to hurt his ';people'; in iraq. He had no balls to stand up for a country that gave him a medical degree, in a country where he borrowed freedom and stole lives.How come there are no massacres in the states with gun control?
Don't go comparing apples to oranges.





Fort Hood is not under the jurisdiction of civilian law, it is under the jurisdiction of military law.





At the time of the massacres, both Columbine High School and Virginia Tech University had policies banning the possession of any and all firearms. These egregious violations of the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms rendered the students, faculty and staff unable to defend themselves against those who attacked them.





Oh, and those DC gun control laws didn't seem to work very well. DC had the highest murder rate in the country for many years running, proving that criminals will obtain and use firearms without regard to the presence of gun control laws. Gun control laws only prohibit law-abiding citizens (those who are least likely to commit murder) from obtaining firearms. Therefore, we find that DC's high murder rate is because of gun control laws.





By the way, politicizing the tragedy at Fort Hood less than 72 hours after it occurred shows how the hatred felt by the poster of this question toward firearms and those of us who use them responsibly exceeds the poster's ability to sympathize with the Fort Hod victims and their families.
1) It is illegal to carry weapons on a military base unless you are liscensed.





2) Schools, with the exeption of universities in Utah, are supposed to be gun free xones.





those laws didn't help much did they?





Lets take a look at your idea though.





Did you know that Chicago and the District of Columbia have violent crime rates much higher then the national average for cities their size? It just doesn't get the press that high profile shootings get. In every state that has enacted right to carry laws violent crime has been reduced...fact.





If you wnat to rely on the police and be a victim that is your choice, however don't expect everyone to be the same as you.
Luck of the draw. What does gun control have to do with any of these massacres? Nothing. The way the shooters obtained their weapons can be done the same in California and Jersey. Your point is moot.





For example, I live in pennsylvania... We have leniant gun laws, and lower end of gun crime... That is... without philadelphia. Philly is like a bubble of california in PA, and they have the highest crime rate in the state.
States with high gun control measures have the highest


amount of sex offenders.


CA has high gun control measures and the largest amount of registered sex offenders


at over 117,000 Why? They dont have to worry about a concealed weapon





Ohio has strict gun laws yet a man can kill and rape as many women as he wants


because he knows NONE of them have a concealed weapon.
Really? Well how about taking an unarmed stroll through Watts in L.A. or West Covina after dark then ask me that question. And stroll through the streets of Jersey City, and the slums of D.C., or how about taking a short stroll in Detriot after dark sometime, genius. Just because you don't see it on the news like what happened at Ft. Hood and Orlando this week, doesn't mean it's wonderful and oh so safe in the places you cited. You'd get your azz robbed, raped, beaten, and or killed in every damned place you cited.
You're right. I hope the federal government goes door to door, like the Gestapo, and confiscates everyone's guns, and kills those who refuse to surrender their weapons. Imagine how safe we'll all be then. I can't wait until Obama declares martial law and takes this necessary step. We will then live in a utopian society. What a glorious day that will be, comrades.
I'm in favor of some amount of gun control, but have to comment that in Columbine, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold acquired guns illegally. They were minors and not legally allowed to own guns, they bought the guns illegally.
I support gun control. But realistically, we all know that correlation does not imply causation. The other side will come back with their own correlations, which, in their opinion, prove that their side is right.
States with gun control have higher rates of gun crime.





Nice try though. You liberals haven't trotted out this bit of propaganda in awhile.
The crime rates are higher in states WITH gun control. Every statistic says that gun control leads to more crime. Are you serious?
California?! ..south central LA anyone? and New Jersey? with the worst ghettos in our country? and someone here pointed out a DC sniper
California?!? Seriously?!? Wow.:))
I don't know about your question but it sure answered mine. I'm going call my mother and let her know it was not me all those years with spelling problems it was my Pencil.
New York has lots of gun control. Mass shooting in Binghamton NY just this year I believe.


Enjoy.
Because your statement if false.
yes, agree with that
I suppose you forgot about the DC sniper, right? Get real
From 4BC people knew the true purpose of a weapon





A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands';


Lucius Annaeus Seneca ';the younger'; 4 BC





And they are ignorant that the purpose of the sword is to save every man from slavery.';


Marcus Annaeus Lucanus Roman poet (A.D. 39)








';Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny.';


Aristotle in Politics








';Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined or determined to commit crimes. Such laws only make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assassins; they serve to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man





Thomas Jefferson:





';Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense.





John Adams





To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them





George Mason





';Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them [guns] by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very


atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference [crime]. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour.';





George Washington








Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe.';





Noah Webster





Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose people are afraid to trust them with arms.





James Madison





The people have a right to keep and bear arms





Patrick Henry





hat standing army can never be formidable (threatening) to the liberties


of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in the use of arms





Alexander Hamilton











This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun Registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead





Adolf Hilter

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